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		<title>By: John Hansell</title>
		<link>http://www.whiskyadvocateblog.com/2009/12/01/review-two-highland-park-vintages-1964-1968/#comment-13085</link>
		<dc:creator>John Hansell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 00:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick, You make some great points. It shows you how much the price of older whiskies have sky-rocketed. Now, I will tell you: I&#039;ve tasted the 1958 and I like the two new releases better. But, having said this, I think that the HP 18 and 30 (both wonderful whiskies), are similar in quality. (I rated the 30 year old a 94.) So, if that&#039;s all you can afford, don&#039;t worry too much. You are doing fine!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick, You make some great points. It shows you how much the price of older whiskies have sky-rocketed. Now, I will tell you: I&#8217;ve tasted the 1958 and I like the two new releases better. But, having said this, I think that the HP 18 and 30 (both wonderful whiskies), are similar in quality. (I rated the 30 year old a 94.) So, if that&#8217;s all you can afford, don&#8217;t worry too much. You are doing fine!</p>
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		<title>By: patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 14:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all these ultra whiskies, I am wondering how many get sold out after 1 year. For these HP, I am struggling to understand their pricing strategy. When the 1958 was released, it was £990 and it took ages to be sold out. Now, the 1964 and 1968 are a vatting of many casks, and still priced at the same level as a single cask or 50% more than the black bowmore.

To come back to Mr Th comment, if no one would review then, no much would be said about them and they would have a tough time selling them. 

As mention by John, how much better are they from a 18 yo or a 30 Yo?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all these ultra whiskies, I am wondering how many get sold out after 1 year. For these HP, I am struggling to understand their pricing strategy. When the 1958 was released, it was £990 and it took ages to be sold out. Now, the 1964 and 1968 are a vatting of many casks, and still priced at the same level as a single cask or 50% more than the black bowmore.</p>
<p>To come back to Mr Th comment, if no one would review then, no much would be said about them and they would have a tough time selling them. </p>
<p>As mention by John, how much better are they from a 18 yo or a 30 Yo?</p>
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		<title>By: sam k</title>
		<link>http://www.whiskyadvocateblog.com/2009/12/01/review-two-highland-park-vintages-1964-1968/#comment-12950</link>
		<dc:creator>sam k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 01:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Play-doh is definitely a strange one, but there&#039;s no mistaking that aroma.  When I read &quot;Play-doh&quot; I know exactly what John means!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Play-doh is definitely a strange one, but there&#8217;s no mistaking that aroma.  When I read &#8220;Play-doh&#8221; I know exactly what John means!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Troland</title>
		<link>http://www.whiskyadvocateblog.com/2009/12/01/review-two-highland-park-vintages-1964-1968/#comment-12946</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Troland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 21:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

My comments about spirits reviews notwithstanding, I enjoy visiting your site frequently, and I recently took you up on the two-for-one offer to subscribe to Malt Advocate.  I look forward to receiving my first issue!  Your site and Chuck Cowdery&#039;s blog are by far the most informative sites on the web for whiskey information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>My comments about spirits reviews notwithstanding, I enjoy visiting your site frequently, and I recently took you up on the two-for-one offer to subscribe to Malt Advocate.  I look forward to receiving my first issue!  Your site and Chuck Cowdery&#8217;s blog are by far the most informative sites on the web for whiskey information.</p>
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		<title>By: Red_Arremer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red_Arremer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice note about HP 18 btw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice note about HP 18 btw.</p>
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		<title>By: Red_Arremer</title>
		<link>http://www.whiskyadvocateblog.com/2009/12/01/review-two-highland-park-vintages-1964-1968/#comment-12935</link>
		<dc:creator>Red_Arremer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To join the discussion of the theory of reviewing:

Language swears to us that it can transform most anything into a paragraph, even a good dram. It&#039;s doubtful, however, that anyone who really believed this could be a good reviewer. Good reviewers understand the limitations of language and work within them. The best any reviewer do is draw the reader on with hints, which is all that genuine reviews are.

Also, Apologies Mr. TH, I can&#039;t help myself but to come to the defense of Old Man of Hoy. Man that was an excellent bottling! Really one of the most individualistic and savory whiskies I&#039;ve ever had. The notes of chutney, semisweet dill pickle, olive, lemon-- My bottle&#039;s almost empty, my dealer can&#039;t get me any more and I don&#039;t know what to do.

But then again, it&#039;s not nescessarily the type of thing that someone who really liked the standard HP line would go for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To join the discussion of the theory of reviewing:</p>
<p>Language swears to us that it can transform most anything into a paragraph, even a good dram. It&#8217;s doubtful, however, that anyone who really believed this could be a good reviewer. Good reviewers understand the limitations of language and work within them. The best any reviewer do is draw the reader on with hints, which is all that genuine reviews are.</p>
<p>Also, Apologies Mr. TH, I can&#8217;t help myself but to come to the defense of Old Man of Hoy. Man that was an excellent bottling! Really one of the most individualistic and savory whiskies I&#8217;ve ever had. The notes of chutney, semisweet dill pickle, olive, lemon&#8211; My bottle&#8217;s almost empty, my dealer can&#8217;t get me any more and I don&#8217;t know what to do.</p>
<p>But then again, it&#8217;s not nescessarily the type of thing that someone who really liked the standard HP line would go for.</p>
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		<title>By: John Hansell</title>
		<link>http://www.whiskyadvocateblog.com/2009/12/01/review-two-highland-park-vintages-1964-1968/#comment-12934</link>
		<dc:creator>John Hansell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot to mention in my initial post that Highland Park is giving away one bottle of the 1968. You can enter the competition on their website. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.highlandpark.co.uk/competition/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s &lt;/a&gt;the link.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to mention in my initial post that Highland Park is giving away one bottle of the 1968. You can enter the competition on their website. <a href="http://www.highlandpark.co.uk/competition/" rel="nofollow">Here&#8217;s </a>the link.</p>
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		<title>By: John Hansell</title>
		<link>http://www.whiskyadvocateblog.com/2009/12/01/review-two-highland-park-vintages-1964-1968/#comment-12931</link>
		<dc:creator>John Hansell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom, I really do try to keep my flavor descriptors fairly straight-forward. Sometimes I smell something peculiar in a whisky and I point it out. (Play-doh, for example). If you don&#039;t like the more esoteric descriptors, just ignore them and focus on the more basic ones, which I also offer. 

I also try to provide some general summary notes, which I did at the beginning of this review, which I think adds perspective.

(PS While I don&#039;t think I have ever used the term, &quot;Buxom&quot; to me means full-bodied, lively.)

Mark, I go back and forth: I nose, then taste, add water, nose again, taste again, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, I really do try to keep my flavor descriptors fairly straight-forward. Sometimes I smell something peculiar in a whisky and I point it out. (Play-doh, for example). If you don&#8217;t like the more esoteric descriptors, just ignore them and focus on the more basic ones, which I also offer. </p>
<p>I also try to provide some general summary notes, which I did at the beginning of this review, which I think adds perspective.</p>
<p>(PS While I don&#8217;t think I have ever used the term, &#8220;Buxom&#8221; to me means full-bodied, lively.)</p>
<p>Mark, I go back and forth: I nose, then taste, add water, nose again, taste again, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Troland</title>
		<link>http://www.whiskyadvocateblog.com/2009/12/01/review-two-highland-park-vintages-1964-1968/#comment-12930</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Troland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WhiskyNotes is absolutely right.  There are some basic aroma elements that most consumers will recognize - peat, oak, and sulfur.  Add fruitiness, spiciness, vanilla, perhaps a few more.  So reviewers convey actual information to their readers when using common terms such as these.  But dusty malt, dusty grain, Play-Doh?  Really. I&#039;ve even seen a reviewer describe a whiskey as buxom. What does that mean?  I certainly do not doubt John Hansell&#039;s honesty and sincerity.  But I think he has the right idea.  If reviewers don&#039;t use a lot of words to describe a spirit, some readers may not take the reviews seriously.  Even though many of the words  convey little if any useful information.  Perhaps some consumers grade spirits reviewers the way lazy teachers might grade student essays - by the inch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WhiskyNotes is absolutely right.  There are some basic aroma elements that most consumers will recognize &#8211; peat, oak, and sulfur.  Add fruitiness, spiciness, vanilla, perhaps a few more.  So reviewers convey actual information to their readers when using common terms such as these.  But dusty malt, dusty grain, Play-Doh?  Really. I&#8217;ve even seen a reviewer describe a whiskey as buxom. What does that mean?  I certainly do not doubt John Hansell&#8217;s honesty and sincerity.  But I think he has the right idea.  If reviewers don&#8217;t use a lot of words to describe a spirit, some readers may not take the reviews seriously.  Even though many of the words  convey little if any useful information.  Perhaps some consumers grade spirits reviewers the way lazy teachers might grade student essays &#8211; by the inch.</p>
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		<title>By: Best in Blog #51: That's a Big Bottle of Ardbeg &#124; Whisky Party</title>
		<link>http://www.whiskyadvocateblog.com/2009/12/01/review-two-highland-park-vintages-1964-1968/#comment-12919</link>
		<dc:creator>Best in Blog #51: That's a Big Bottle of Ardbeg &#124; Whisky Party</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 06:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hansell reviews the Highland Park 1964 and 1968 vintage releases.  He likes them both, but hints that you&#8217;d do just as well (and save a few thousand bucks) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Hansell reviews the Highland Park 1964 and 1968 vintage releases.  He likes them both, but hints that you&#8217;d do just as well (and save a few thousand bucks) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.whiskyadvocateblog.com/2009/12/01/review-two-highland-park-vintages-1964-1968/#comment-12915</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 04:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Troland&#039;s point need not include the strong claim that the aroma terms are &quot;meaningless.&quot; John&#039;s honesty shows in part that one of his aims is accessibility across a range of whisky drinkers. In that context, I find his reviews clearly helpful; they introduce the terrain, so to speak, which we then have to walk ourselves, if we want and are able.

Still, I remember reading an interview with a chemist who specializes in whisky. He spoke of using two languages, one for his public work with the SMWS, and one in his professional context. The latter was, not surprisingly, much more sophisticated and precise. So, when Mr Troland writes, &quot;The problem is with our language that is incapable of describing aromas very accurately,&quot; he has a point. It does not, however, follow that more accessible terms are meaningless. 

John, one question, and I apologize if answering it requires restating something I missed in the past: When tasting, how long do you typically nose the whisky before that initial sip? In my experience, the list of aromas develops over time as one picks out characteristics. (I think over the last few years, at least when I&#039;m trying to take the dram seriously, it&#039;s at least 3-5 minutes before it crosses the lips; this gives something like ample time to identify aspects.) Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Troland&#8217;s point need not include the strong claim that the aroma terms are &#8220;meaningless.&#8221; John&#8217;s honesty shows in part that one of his aims is accessibility across a range of whisky drinkers. In that context, I find his reviews clearly helpful; they introduce the terrain, so to speak, which we then have to walk ourselves, if we want and are able.</p>
<p>Still, I remember reading an interview with a chemist who specializes in whisky. He spoke of using two languages, one for his public work with the SMWS, and one in his professional context. The latter was, not surprisingly, much more sophisticated and precise. So, when Mr Troland writes, &#8220;The problem is with our language that is incapable of describing aromas very accurately,&#8221; he has a point. It does not, however, follow that more accessible terms are meaningless. </p>
<p>John, one question, and I apologize if answering it requires restating something I missed in the past: When tasting, how long do you typically nose the whisky before that initial sip? In my experience, the list of aromas develops over time as one picks out characteristics. (I think over the last few years, at least when I&#8217;m trying to take the dram seriously, it&#8217;s at least 3-5 minutes before it crosses the lips; this gives something like ample time to identify aspects.) Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: MrTH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MrTH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 04:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, John.  I&#039;d agree that HP 12/18/25 are safe bets indeed--for me, the 25 is a classic of understated excellence (if that makes any sense).  But I&#039;ve definitely had some oddballs, both IB (Blackadder Old Man of Hoy springs to mind) and OB (Ambassador&#039;s Cask #2 was just unconscionable).  I&#039;m willing to accept the risk of single-cask variation, but I can&#039;t escape the notion that a lot of really excellent single-cask bottlings would be possible, if only distilleries like HP were willing to make the effort to spread them around to the various markets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, John.  I&#8217;d agree that HP 12/18/25 are safe bets indeed&#8211;for me, the 25 is a classic of understated excellence (if that makes any sense).  But I&#8217;ve definitely had some oddballs, both IB (Blackadder Old Man of Hoy springs to mind) and OB (Ambassador&#8217;s Cask #2 was just unconscionable).  I&#8217;m willing to accept the risk of single-cask variation, but I can&#8217;t escape the notion that a lot of really excellent single-cask bottlings would be possible, if only distilleries like HP were willing to make the effort to spread them around to the various markets.</p>
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		<title>By: John Hansell</title>
		<link>http://www.whiskyadvocateblog.com/2009/12/01/review-two-highland-park-vintages-1964-1968/#comment-12912</link>
		<dc:creator>John Hansell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 03:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr TH, I think it&#039;s fair to say that the standard HP releases are a safe bet. The Single Cask bottlings they did for specialty retailers varied greatly. (Maybe that&#039;s why the discontinued the practice.) Still some were stunning.

Regarding review samples, when it comes to rare bottlings, I suspect that some companies just sacrifice one bottle and send 50 or 100 ml samples to a short list whisky writers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr TH, I think it&#8217;s fair to say that the standard HP releases are a safe bet. The Single Cask bottlings they did for specialty retailers varied greatly. (Maybe that&#8217;s why the discontinued the practice.) Still some were stunning.</p>
<p>Regarding review samples, when it comes to rare bottlings, I suspect that some companies just sacrifice one bottle and send 50 or 100 ml samples to a short list whisky writers.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Riesbeck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Riesbeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 03:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;spirit&quot; of a review is to provide the map by which you can draw your own conclusions.  The suggestive powers of nosing a taste of whiskey along side a professional review is incredibly important.  As a professional in the spirits industry for a number of years the assistance of having a review and then working through a tasting drastically increases the consumers ability to relate to a particular sensory experience.  A review simply &#039;declutters&#039; the mind when approaching a complex aroma for a whiskey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;spirit&#8221; of a review is to provide the map by which you can draw your own conclusions.  The suggestive powers of nosing a taste of whiskey along side a professional review is incredibly important.  As a professional in the spirits industry for a number of years the assistance of having a review and then working through a tasting drastically increases the consumers ability to relate to a particular sensory experience.  A review simply &#8216;declutters&#8217; the mind when approaching a complex aroma for a whiskey.</p>
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		<title>By: MrTH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MrTH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 03:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom, I&#039;ll disagree with you that HP is a safe bet.  It&#039;s a favorite of mine, too, but I&#039;ve had some really weird ones.

John, bottlings like these always make me wonder...there&#039;s such a limited amount of it, but all of the reviewers seem to get a sample.  Do you have any idea what percentage of the whisky produced gets sent out as samples for review?  I wonder about this, too, when I hear of Richard Paterson pouring drams of 62yo Dalmore down various people&#039;s throats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, I&#8217;ll disagree with you that HP is a safe bet.  It&#8217;s a favorite of mine, too, but I&#8217;ve had some really weird ones.</p>
<p>John, bottlings like these always make me wonder&#8230;there&#8217;s such a limited amount of it, but all of the reviewers seem to get a sample.  Do you have any idea what percentage of the whisky produced gets sent out as samples for review?  I wonder about this, too, when I hear of Richard Paterson pouring drams of 62yo Dalmore down various people&#8217;s throats.</p>
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