Comments on: Review: Jefferson’s Presidential Select, 17 yr. old bourbon http://www.whiskyadvocateblog.com/2009/08/20/review-jeffersons-presidential-select-17-yr-old-bourbon/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 10:01:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: A few brief Scotch, Bourbon, Rye and Irish whiskey updates | What Does John Know? http://www.whiskyadvocateblog.com/2009/08/20/review-jeffersons-presidential-select-17-yr-old-bourbon/#comment-82053 A few brief Scotch, Bourbon, Rye and Irish whiskey updates | What Does John Know? Mon, 18 Apr 2011 14:23:37 +0000 http://blog.maltadvocate.com/?p=1602#comment-82053 [...] folks behind the Jefferson’s line of bourbons, including the outstanding Jefferson’s Presidential Select releases, told me they will be releasing a 10 year old 100% rye whiskey later this year at 94 proof. [...] [...] folks behind the Jefferson’s line of bourbons, including the outstanding Jefferson’s Presidential Select releases, told me they will be releasing a 10 year old 100% rye whiskey later this year at 94 proof. [...]

]]> By: Jefferson 17yr Bourbon Back In Stock! « Shoppers Vineyard http://www.whiskyadvocateblog.com/2009/08/20/review-jeffersons-presidential-select-17-yr-old-bourbon/#comment-54475 Jefferson 17yr Bourbon Back In Stock! « Shoppers Vineyard Mon, 13 Dec 2010 13:13:38 +0000 http://blog.maltadvocate.com/?p=1602#comment-54475 [...] this year was Jefferson Presidential Select 17yr Bourbon. The blockbuster sales were based on the 96pt score from the Malt Advocate and the fact that the barrels were from one of the last years [...] [...] this year was Jefferson Presidential Select 17yr Bourbon. The blockbuster sales were based on the 96pt score from the Malt Advocate and the fact that the barrels were from one of the last years [...]

]]> By: Ian http://www.whiskyadvocateblog.com/2009/08/20/review-jeffersons-presidential-select-17-yr-old-bourbon/#comment-39075 Ian Sun, 29 Aug 2010 04:16:12 +0000 http://blog.maltadvocate.com/?p=1602#comment-39075 I was excited when I saw this advertised at my local store. Unfortunately, they seemed to sell out immediately, and I went to another place and bought a bottle (batch #4). I was back at the first place again today, and I saw that they were selling a different bottling of the same 1991 Stitzel-Weller whiskey. This is a single-barrel bottling, 18 years old. Has anyone tried both? I was excited when I saw this advertised at my local store. Unfortunately, they seemed to sell out immediately, and I went to another place and bought a bottle (batch #4). I was back at the first place again today, and I saw that they were selling a different bottling of the same 1991 Stitzel-Weller whiskey. This is a single-barrel bottling, 18 years old. Has anyone tried both?

]]> By: Sanderson http://www.whiskyadvocateblog.com/2009/08/20/review-jeffersons-presidential-select-17-yr-old-bourbon/#comment-36647 Sanderson Tue, 10 Aug 2010 12:43:08 +0000 http://blog.maltadvocate.com/?p=1602#comment-36647 I'm curious about this one as well. I was looking over a bottle yesterday for $95. On the bottle it stated the following: "Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey Aged in Stitzel-Weller Barrels". My question is, as some others have questioned already, is the whiskey inside the bottle really "Stitzel-Weller Whiskey"? Or, is it whiskey that was distilled from some other distillery and put in barrels and warehoused at Stitzel-Weller during the final days that they were in operation? I'm just curious because if the whiskey is in fact Stitzel-Weller whiskey, then why wouldn't the label simply state that instead of stating "Aged in Stitzel-Weller Barrels"? Does "Aged in Stitzel-Weller Barrels" mean that the bourbon was produced by Stitzel-Weller? In all reality, whether the whiskey is Stitzel-Weller bourbon or not is not that big of a deal. I don't think this fact should have any influence on ratings of the whiskey. If it is good, then it is good. However, I would like to know if the whiskey can really be classified as Stitzel-Weller bourbon. I’m curious about this one as well. I was looking over a bottle yesterday for $95. On the bottle it stated the following: “Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey Aged in Stitzel-Weller Barrels”. My question is, as some others have questioned already, is the whiskey inside the bottle really “Stitzel-Weller Whiskey”? Or, is it whiskey that was distilled from some other distillery and put in barrels and warehoused at Stitzel-Weller during the final days that they were in operation? I’m just curious because if the whiskey is in fact Stitzel-Weller whiskey, then why wouldn’t the label simply state that instead of stating “Aged in Stitzel-Weller Barrels”? Does “Aged in Stitzel-Weller Barrels” mean that the bourbon was produced by Stitzel-Weller?

In all reality, whether the whiskey is Stitzel-Weller bourbon or not is not that big of a deal. I don’t think this fact should have any influence on ratings of the whiskey. If it is good, then it is good. However, I would like to know if the whiskey can really be classified as Stitzel-Weller bourbon.

]]> By: Denver http://www.whiskyadvocateblog.com/2009/08/20/review-jeffersons-presidential-select-17-yr-old-bourbon/#comment-35514 Denver Tue, 03 Aug 2010 11:36:02 +0000 http://blog.maltadvocate.com/?p=1602#comment-35514 Thanks, I'm just being overly cautious is all... I've never gone over $50 for a bottle of whiskey--this one was $80 w/ shipping--but from all I've read it should be well worth it. Thanks, I’m just being overly cautious is all… I’ve never gone over $50 for a bottle of whiskey–this one was $80 w/ shipping–but from all I’ve read it should be well worth it.

]]> By: John Hansell http://www.whiskyadvocateblog.com/2009/08/20/review-jeffersons-presidential-select-17-yr-old-bourbon/#comment-35511 John Hansell Tue, 03 Aug 2010 11:28:38 +0000 http://blog.maltadvocate.com/?p=1602#comment-35511 My bottle actually states it's from Stitzel-Weller on the label. My bottle actually states it’s from Stitzel-Weller on the label.

]]> By: Denver http://www.whiskyadvocateblog.com/2009/08/20/review-jeffersons-presidential-select-17-yr-old-bourbon/#comment-35444 Denver Tue, 03 Aug 2010 02:36:27 +0000 http://blog.maltadvocate.com/?p=1602#comment-35444 I'm picking up a bottle from Shoppers Vineyard... but is it possible they have produced "newer" batches which aren't from the Stitzel-Weller distillery? Going over a 10-K filing from Castle Brands, Inc available at: http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1311538/000114420410035459/v189224_10k.htm On page 19 it reads: " Bourbon Purchase In December 2009, we acquired a rare stock of aged bourbon which will supply our currently forecasted supply needs for Jefferson’s and Jefferson’s Reserve very small batch Kentucky bourbons..." They didn't say where it was acquired from, but maybe I overlooked something or just haven't found the info yet. I’m picking up a bottle from Shoppers Vineyard… but is it possible they have produced “newer” batches which aren’t from the Stitzel-Weller distillery?

Going over a 10-K filing from Castle Brands, Inc available at:
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1311538/000114420410035459/v189224_10k.htm

On page 19 it reads:

” Bourbon Purchase

In December 2009, we acquired a rare stock of aged bourbon which will supply our currently forecasted supply needs for Jefferson’s and Jefferson’s Reserve very small batch Kentucky bourbons…”

They didn’t say where it was acquired from, but maybe I overlooked something or just haven’t found the info yet.

]]> By: Closing-Out this 96pt Bourbon! « Shoppers Vineyard http://www.whiskyadvocateblog.com/2009/08/20/review-jeffersons-presidential-select-17-yr-old-bourbon/#comment-35329 Closing-Out this 96pt Bourbon! « Shoppers Vineyard Mon, 02 Aug 2010 13:34:22 +0000 http://blog.maltadvocate.com/?p=1602#comment-35329 [...] Here’s what I do know. When Jefferson 17yr was first released, the Malt Advocate scored it 96pt and it retailed for around $90/bottle. The close-out price will now be $64.99/bottle, which is a [...] [...] Here’s what I do know. When Jefferson 17yr was first released, the Malt Advocate scored it 96pt and it retailed for around $90/bottle. The close-out price will now be $64.99/bottle, which is a [...]

]]> By: John Hansell http://www.whiskyadvocateblog.com/2009/08/20/review-jeffersons-presidential-select-17-yr-old-bourbon/#comment-13315 John Hansell Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:59:18 +0000 http://blog.maltadvocate.com/?p=1602#comment-13315 Johnnie, do you know which batch you tasted? Johnnie, do you know which batch you tasted?

]]> By: Johnnie MacCracken http://www.whiskyadvocateblog.com/2009/08/20/review-jeffersons-presidential-select-17-yr-old-bourbon/#comment-13244 Johnnie MacCracken Fri, 11 Dec 2009 03:19:56 +0000 http://blog.maltadvocate.com/?p=1602#comment-13244 Just ordered and paid @$70 for on premise Irish Pub in Georgia. Offered to 5 of our best regulars at no charge to sample and consencus was it was almost a sweet dessert type liquor...could be confused with not being a bourbon. Then gave your review to see if they had accurately discovered various botanicals/herbs/etc. I personally thought it was worth it and I am a big drinker of single malts and Irish Whiskey. Just ordered and paid @$70 for on premise Irish Pub in Georgia. Offered to 5 of our best regulars at no charge to sample and consencus was it was almost a sweet dessert type liquor…could be confused with not being a bourbon. Then gave your review to see if they had accurately discovered various botanicals/herbs/etc. I personally thought it was worth it and I am a big drinker of single malts and Irish Whiskey.

]]> By: Jeff H. http://www.whiskyadvocateblog.com/2009/08/20/review-jeffersons-presidential-select-17-yr-old-bourbon/#comment-12717 Jeff H. Wed, 25 Nov 2009 06:05:06 +0000 http://blog.maltadvocate.com/?p=1602#comment-12717 Mike B - It sounds like you have a Total Wine & More in your area. I just picked up Bottle 505, Batch 2 for $81.99 at Total Wine in Tempe, AZ. On first sip, I'm very impressed with the Jefferson. Lots of oak (this is the oldest bourbon I've tried), but I don't think it's quite too much yet. I'm glad they found it and bottled it at 17, rather than wait until 20 or more years. Very drying on the tongue! I like it! Will have to do a head-to-head with WLW 2009. Jeff Mike B – It sounds like you have a Total Wine & More in your area. I just picked up Bottle 505, Batch 2 for $81.99 at Total Wine in Tempe, AZ.

On first sip, I’m very impressed with the Jefferson. Lots of oak (this is the oldest bourbon I’ve tried), but I don’t think it’s quite too much yet. I’m glad they found it and bottled it at 17, rather than wait until 20 or more years. Very drying on the tongue!

I like it! Will have to do a head-to-head with WLW 2009.

Jeff

]]> By: Mike B. http://www.whiskyadvocateblog.com/2009/08/20/review-jeffersons-presidential-select-17-yr-old-bourbon/#comment-12542 Mike B. Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:44:28 +0000 http://blog.maltadvocate.com/?p=1602#comment-12542 Gents, I just got bottle 557 batch 2 ($81) and I put it up to test againts last years 20 yr Pappy Van Winklen($89)...The color and the tears on the glass very close, the nose of the Pappy was deeper, spicer and more fruit, Jefferson lighter and sweeter, the taste of the Jefferson, a little more vapor than flavor, but still very good. For me, I still think the Pappy wins by a nose! Gents, I just got bottle 557 batch 2 ($81) and I put it up to test againts last years 20 yr Pappy Van Winklen($89)…The color and the tears on the glass very close, the nose of the Pappy was deeper, spicer and more fruit, Jefferson lighter and sweeter, the taste of the Jefferson, a little more vapor than flavor, but still very good. For me, I still think the Pappy wins by a nose!

]]> By: Rick Bridges http://www.whiskyadvocateblog.com/2009/08/20/review-jeffersons-presidential-select-17-yr-old-bourbon/#comment-10164 Rick Bridges Sun, 13 Sep 2009 02:02:34 +0000 http://blog.maltadvocate.com/?p=1602#comment-10164 I live in Texas and the Jefferson is no where to be found. A freind of mine brought me 2 bottles straight from Kentucky, and it is the best I have ever tasted. I got bottles 995 and 996 out of batch 2. I get a bottle every year of 20+ yr old Pappy Van Winkle, from a freind of mine that works there. It doesnt even compare! I advise all of you to get a bottle of this very special bourbon, before it is all gone. There will never be another batch of this wheat that taste like this. This stuff deserves a rating of 100, and nothing any lower. Period. I live in Texas and the Jefferson is no where to be found. A freind of mine brought me 2 bottles straight from Kentucky, and it is the best I have ever tasted. I got bottles 995 and 996 out of batch 2. I get a bottle every year of 20+ yr old Pappy Van Winkle, from a freind of mine that works there. It doesnt even compare! I advise all of you to get a bottle of this very special bourbon, before it is all gone. There will never be another batch of this wheat that taste like this. This stuff deserves a rating of 100, and nothing any lower. Period.

]]> By: John Hansell http://www.whiskyadvocateblog.com/2009/08/20/review-jeffersons-presidential-select-17-yr-old-bourbon/#comment-8758 John Hansell Thu, 27 Aug 2009 11:08:43 +0000 http://blog.maltadvocate.com/?p=1602#comment-8758 Sam S. a good, balanced amount. It's there, but not rough or agressive, but rather "polished". Sam S. a good, balanced amount. It’s there, but not rough or agressive, but rather “polished”.

]]> By: Sam S. http://www.whiskyadvocateblog.com/2009/08/20/review-jeffersons-presidential-select-17-yr-old-bourbon/#comment-8711 Sam S. Wed, 26 Aug 2009 22:33:12 +0000 http://blog.maltadvocate.com/?p=1602#comment-8711 Hey John. What's the wood character like? When you say "polished oak finish," can you quantify somehow, how much? Is it a hint? Is it too much? Thanks. Hey John.
What’s the wood character like?
When you say “polished oak finish,” can you quantify somehow, how much?
Is it a hint?
Is it too much?
Thanks.

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