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		<title>By: Danny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 09:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John

Another bottle went on sale yesterday as well that might be worth mentioning. A Springbank 1919, bottled in 1970, Asking price was 55.000 euro and the current offer is 47.000

http://www.worldwhiskyindex.com/default.asp?id=2&amp;page=&amp;nieuwsid=18</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John</p>
<p>Another bottle went on sale yesterday as well that might be worth mentioning. A Springbank 1919, bottled in 1970, Asking price was 55.000 euro and the current offer is 47.000</p>
<p><a href="http://www.worldwhiskyindex.com/default.asp?id=2&#038;page=&#038;nieuwsid=18" rel="nofollow">http://www.worldwhiskyindex.com/default.asp?id=2&#038;page=&#038;nieuwsid=18</a></p>
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		<title>By: butephoto</title>
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		<dc:creator>butephoto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 08:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great for charity.

I tried a 3yo Kilchoman recently which had been finished in a sherry cask for 2 and a half months and it was very nice. Almost too nice for a whisky that young.</description>
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<p>I tried a 3yo Kilchoman recently which had been finished in a sherry cask for 2 and a half months and it was very nice. Almost too nice for a whisky that young.</p>
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		<title>By: Harvey Fry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harvey Fry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 01:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>first, for those of you who might have
missed it, this Kilchoman entry is a
follow-up to the previous posting of 
May 6th, announcing &amp; advertising the
coming sale of the rare/precious 1st
bottle which you now know sold for 5400 
GBP= the ex-vat price equivalent of 
well over 200 bottles of a month or so
younger new make spirit Kilchoman, still
available at royalmilewhiskies.com:
cask 358, d.13-12-06 &amp; b.27-4-09, 61.9%
@25.17 GBP ex-vat.+ shipping&gt;  

for all the details of my high opinion 
of the make go to the bottom of this 
page, hit next page &amp; scroll back a smidgen.  if you want this particular (considerably less) valuable collectors&#039; item you&#039;d better hurry cuz the price 
has already gone up a pound (from cask 
304 @24.30) &amp; most everything bottled
from now on will have to be called whisky
because it&#039;ll be 3 or more years old.
that by itself will probably jack up the
ante a coupleA.  i won&#039;t presume to speculate on how the contents of the 
great one compare to what is in these
that came (as they are, after all, NOT 
YET quite whisky) before &amp; the next REAL stuff coming down the pike.  BUT...if i were a betting man, i&#039;d offer you the
appropriate odds you wouldn&#039;t be able to tell the difference between the 3 in a
blind tasting.  the important thing IS that THIS IS a better than average malt beverage on its own &amp;, when you factor in the price it&#039;s a real steal^ 

second, Red Arremer: i can&#039;t quite match
Jim Murray&#039;s numbers here but i made
every one of the 1 to several months old expressions (in 5cl miniatures) i tasted some close variant of 23-23-22-22 or 
around 90.  perhaps strange to you who
don&#039;t seem to be that enthusiastic about
the possible merits of such younguns, i
also rated the several 1 &amp; now 2 (almost
3) year olds very much the same= so far
it has NOT got noticeably better with a
wee more age.  then again, far fewer
than 100 (less than 5%) of the coming up on 2000 different single malt expressions (95% opened, tasted &amp; rated) in my collection rank as highly. if McEwan&#039;s
Port Charlottes &amp; young Bruichladdichs
are any guide we probably won&#039;t have that
much a handle on it for some time.  i
tasted cask samples of both of the new
Loch Indaal West Shore beauties not long
after they were old enough to be called
Whisky &amp; they blew me away.  my next
encounter was PC5 &amp; i + well over 4 out
of 5 of the many people who&#039;ve tasted it
against PC6 &amp; now PC7 (in my presence)
have liked/rated 5 slightly above the
later two. but then, some time (i&#039;m 71)
back, it suddenly came to me that, just 
as is often the case with age, beauty (&amp; the relation between the two) in life in general, whisky is poorly served by many of the cliches passed along to us (&amp;
repeatedly reinforced] by those whose interest they serve&lt;  

IF 1. you use Jim Murray&#039;s rating/scoring method as he outlines it in all of his 
Whisky Bibles (how to read the bible) &amp;
as i DO believe he (for the most part)
uses it &amp;
IF 2. you taste ALL whiskies BLIND &amp;
against at least 4 or 5 appropriate
other expressions &amp;
IF 3. you try hard to leave behind any
of your prejudices/preconceptions&lt;i&gt;: no matter how expert,   
knowledgeable or lucid they are, there
is only so much you can learn from
other people...to get what&#039;s really
there you have to taste/drink, listen or touch each &amp; every relevant thing that
comes your way.  &amp; if you are serious,
pay attention &amp; have a good system for
remembering what you experience, you
will most likely be able to make your 
own rules.  at very least, you&#039;ll be
much better able to understand &amp; use
those that others will try to pass on
to you, sometimes without understanding
them themselves.  one of the wonderful things about this blog is it can help
point out many paths, none of which
mean much unless you take them

i hope to come back after the basketball
surgery &amp; rant some more^
but don&#039;t hold your *.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>first, for those of you who might have<br />
missed it, this Kilchoman entry is a<br />
follow-up to the previous posting of<br />
May 6th, announcing &amp; advertising the<br />
coming sale of the rare/precious 1st<br />
bottle which you now know sold for 5400<br />
GBP= the ex-vat price equivalent of<br />
well over 200 bottles of a month or so<br />
younger new make spirit Kilchoman, still<br />
available at royalmilewhiskies.com:<br />
cask 358, d.13-12-06 &amp; b.27-4-09, 61.9%<br />
@25.17 GBP ex-vat.+ shipping&gt;  </p>
<p>for all the details of my high opinion<br />
of the make go to the bottom of this<br />
page, hit next page &amp; scroll back a smidgen.  if you want this particular (considerably less) valuable collectors&#8217; item you&#8217;d better hurry cuz the price<br />
has already gone up a pound (from cask<br />
304 @24.30) &amp; most everything bottled<br />
from now on will have to be called whisky<br />
because it&#8217;ll be 3 or more years old.<br />
that by itself will probably jack up the<br />
ante a coupleA.  i won&#8217;t presume to speculate on how the contents of the<br />
great one compare to what is in these<br />
that came (as they are, after all, NOT<br />
YET quite whisky) before &amp; the next REAL stuff coming down the pike.  BUT&#8230;if i were a betting man, i&#8217;d offer you the<br />
appropriate odds you wouldn&#8217;t be able to tell the difference between the 3 in a<br />
blind tasting.  the important thing IS that THIS IS a better than average malt beverage on its own &amp;, when you factor in the price it&#8217;s a real steal^ </p>
<p>second, Red Arremer: i can&#8217;t quite match<br />
Jim Murray&#8217;s numbers here but i made<br />
every one of the 1 to several months old expressions (in 5cl miniatures) i tasted some close variant of 23-23-22-22 or<br />
around 90.  perhaps strange to you who<br />
don&#8217;t seem to be that enthusiastic about<br />
the possible merits of such younguns, i<br />
also rated the several 1 &amp; now 2 (almost<br />
3) year olds very much the same= so far<br />
it has NOT got noticeably better with a<br />
wee more age.  then again, far fewer<br />
than 100 (less than 5%) of the coming up on 2000 different single malt expressions (95% opened, tasted &amp; rated) in my collection rank as highly. if McEwan&#8217;s<br />
Port Charlottes &amp; young Bruichladdichs<br />
are any guide we probably won&#8217;t have that<br />
much a handle on it for some time.  i<br />
tasted cask samples of both of the new<br />
Loch Indaal West Shore beauties not long<br />
after they were old enough to be called<br />
Whisky &amp; they blew me away.  my next<br />
encounter was PC5 &amp; i + well over 4 out<br />
of 5 of the many people who&#8217;ve tasted it<br />
against PC6 &amp; now PC7 (in my presence)<br />
have liked/rated 5 slightly above the<br />
later two. but then, some time (i&#8217;m 71)<br />
back, it suddenly came to me that, just<br />
as is often the case with age, beauty (&amp; the relation between the two) in life in general, whisky is poorly served by many of the cliches passed along to us (&amp;<br />
repeatedly reinforced] by those whose interest they serve&lt;  </p>
<p>IF 1. you use Jim Murray&#8217;s rating/scoring method as he outlines it in all of his<br />
Whisky Bibles (how to read the bible) &amp;<br />
as i DO believe he (for the most part)<br />
uses it &amp;<br />
IF 2. you taste ALL whiskies BLIND &amp;<br />
against at least 4 or 5 appropriate<br />
other expressions &amp;<br />
IF 3. you try hard to leave behind any<br />
of your prejudices/preconceptions<i>: no matter how expert,<br />
knowledgeable or lucid they are, there<br />
is only so much you can learn from<br />
other people&#8230;to get what&#8217;s really<br />
there you have to taste/drink, listen or touch each &amp; every relevant thing that<br />
comes your way.  &amp; if you are serious,<br />
pay attention &amp; have a good system for<br />
remembering what you experience, you<br />
will most likely be able to make your<br />
own rules.  at very least, you&#8217;ll be<br />
much better able to understand &amp; use<br />
those that others will try to pass on<br />
to you, sometimes without understanding<br />
them themselves.  one of the wonderful things about this blog is it can help<br />
point out many paths, none of which<br />
mean much unless you take them</p>
<p>i hope to come back after the basketball<br />
surgery &amp; rant some more^<br />
but don&#8217;t hold your *.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Best in Blog #5: Tasting Notes and Whisky News on the Web &#124; Whisky Party</title>
		<link>http://www.whiskyadvocateblog.com/2009/05/28/first-bottle-of-kilchoman-whisky-auctions-for-over-5000/#comment-5550</link>
		<dc:creator>Best in Blog #5: Tasting Notes and Whisky News on the Web &#124; Whisky Party</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 18:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Advocate reports that the first bottle of Kilchoman auctioned for [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Red_Arremer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red_Arremer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 15:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know what method Jim Murray uses when he gives one month old make a 94? Does he go by how much he enjoys it, his educated guess of what it will taste in the long run, how it compares to other barely matured spirits like corn whiskey, or some other standard that is specifically suited to the evaluation of premature scotch?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know what method Jim Murray uses when he gives one month old make a 94? Does he go by how much he enjoys it, his educated guess of what it will taste in the long run, how it compares to other barely matured spirits like corn whiskey, or some other standard that is specifically suited to the evaluation of premature scotch?</p>
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		<title>By: bgulien</title>
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		<dc:creator>bgulien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 15:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great! No we wait for the real Kilchoman Single Malt.
I have sampled the 2 yo new spirit, and it was pretty good.
So looking forward to September!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great! No we wait for the real Kilchoman Single Malt.<br />
I have sampled the 2 yo new spirit, and it was pretty good.<br />
So looking forward to September!</p>
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