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		<title>By: tzvika</title>
		<link>http://www.whiskyadvocateblog.com/2008/09/27/whats-causing-the-price-increases/#comment-1647</link>
		<dc:creator>tzvika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i guess its mostely due to taxes.
but u know..the rich ones can afford buyin the good stuff and i cant wait for someone to fly to the states to bring me something special like Jon mark and Robo for example for 30$.
becuse everything is so expenssive i really cant remember the last time i bought a bottle of whisky at a store im just waiting for someone to buy me at the dutyfree.
so all i get is just the regular stuff and nothing special..no special edition or Independent Bottlers that id love to try</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i guess its mostely due to taxes.<br />
but u know..the rich ones can afford buyin the good stuff and i cant wait for someone to fly to the states to bring me something special like Jon mark and Robo for example for 30$.<br />
becuse everything is so expenssive i really cant remember the last time i bought a bottle of whisky at a store im just waiting for someone to buy me at the dutyfree.<br />
so all i get is just the regular stuff and nothing special..no special edition or Independent Bottlers that id love to try</p>
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		<title>By: John Hansell</title>
		<link>http://www.whiskyadvocateblog.com/2008/09/27/whats-causing-the-price-increases/#comment-1615</link>
		<dc:creator>John Hansell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 14:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tzvika: Thanks for giving us a true global perspective. $230 for Ardbeg 10 in Isreal.  Wow! Is that mostly due to taxes, I wonder?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tzvika: Thanks for giving us a true global perspective. $230 for Ardbeg 10 in Isreal.  Wow! Is that mostly due to taxes, I wonder?</p>
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		<title>By: tzvika</title>
		<link>http://www.whiskyadvocateblog.com/2008/09/27/whats-causing-the-price-increases/#comment-1614</link>
		<dc:creator>tzvika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 13:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i just read all ur coments and i agree that as long as thers a good priced whisky im ok.
but u see it from the point of people that live in the us and got a wide range of brands.
im from israel and i used to mangae a bar here.
im lookin at webstores such as bevmo.com and im jelouse with the prices.
JD for 15$ hell..im payin here 175NIS that is 50$
JW black label for 43$(1liter) here it costs 350NIS that is 100$
Ardbeg 10 for 62$(ill take a case now!) her i pay 810NIS that is 230$(!!!) per a bottle
the taxes are increasing and the prices goes up
ill take ur problems anyday!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just read all ur coments and i agree that as long as thers a good priced whisky im ok.<br />
but u see it from the point of people that live in the us and got a wide range of brands.<br />
im from israel and i used to mangae a bar here.<br />
im lookin at webstores such as bevmo.com and im jelouse with the prices.<br />
JD for 15$ hell..im payin here 175NIS that is 50$<br />
JW black label for 43$(1liter) here it costs 350NIS that is 100$<br />
Ardbeg 10 for 62$(ill take a case now!) her i pay 810NIS that is 230$(!!!) per a bottle<br />
the taxes are increasing and the prices goes up<br />
ill take ur problems anyday!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom D</title>
		<link>http://www.whiskyadvocateblog.com/2008/09/27/whats-causing-the-price-increases/#comment-1607</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In other words, forget the price of Tea in China, What&#039;s the price of Elmer T. in China?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In other words, forget the price of Tea in China, What&#8217;s the price of Elmer T. in China?</p>
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		<title>By: Tom D</title>
		<link>http://www.whiskyadvocateblog.com/2008/09/27/whats-causing-the-price-increases/#comment-1606</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 18:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About two years ago, a customer of mine returned from a trip to Shanghai, with photographs and stories about the bar scene there.  An emerging &quot;middle class&quot; there was blowing big bucks on ordinary bottlings of Scotch and Bourbon Whiskies, she observed.  This got me to thinking; What is the only thing you can&#039;t make in China?  What is the only thing they will not eventually make better and cheaper in China?  If China&#039;s middle class is growing exponentially, and they are largely self-sufficient, save metals and energy, what is the one thing you can profit from enormously by owning the manufacturing rights too in the coming century?

The answer is clearly certain kinds of alcohol.  You can&#039;t make scotch, bourbon, or bordeaux in China.  You may be able to make wine or whisky, but not scotch.

I own a liquor store in Kansas, and we have only two large liquor distributors for our state.  One is Standard, started and owned in state.  The other distributor was purchased by Glazer&#039;s.

In the past year, we have had to deal with multiple month&#039;s out of stock problems on the following whiskies, in order:

Old Charter.  Out for a month.
W.L. Weller.  Out for over two months.
*Gasp*  Maker&#039;s Mark.  Out for a month.
Old 1889 out for a month and counting.

When Heaven hill burned, supply of their products was not noticeably impacted.  Evan Williams went up a hair in price, but that was all.  The last great price hike was the tequila scare some years ago.

How can a distributor run out of Maker&#039;s Mark?  They advertise that product!  You don&#039;t spend any money on advertising a product if it&#039;s in high enough demand that you will run out of it!

I&#039;m not sure if the Kansas out of stock problem&#039;s were related to crappy management from Glazer&#039;s (As Old Charter comes from the other distributor) and are therefore not indicative of wider supply problems in the country or not.  However, combined with my observation of the price of scrap metal (China) Concrete (China) and Gasoline (China)  I suspect that producers are sending every spare drop of their whiskies to the Far East, to quench that middle class.  It&#039;s a supply and demand issue, in my opinion.

If you could sell all your whisky for $300 per case in China, why would you bother selling any in Kansas for $100?  Ever see Four Roses Bourbon any more?  It was the top seller in the U.S. for over 20 years.  They still make it.  They just don&#039;t bother selling it here.

I think my out of stock problems were indicative that Buffalo Trace is shipping every drop they think they won&#039;t sell domestically over-seas, running a little short on a few things here, and our distributors jacking the price up as a result.  I think Maker&#039;s followed suit.  We&#039;ll see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About two years ago, a customer of mine returned from a trip to Shanghai, with photographs and stories about the bar scene there.  An emerging &#8220;middle class&#8221; there was blowing big bucks on ordinary bottlings of Scotch and Bourbon Whiskies, she observed.  This got me to thinking; What is the only thing you can&#8217;t make in China?  What is the only thing they will not eventually make better and cheaper in China?  If China&#8217;s middle class is growing exponentially, and they are largely self-sufficient, save metals and energy, what is the one thing you can profit from enormously by owning the manufacturing rights too in the coming century?</p>
<p>The answer is clearly certain kinds of alcohol.  You can&#8217;t make scotch, bourbon, or bordeaux in China.  You may be able to make wine or whisky, but not scotch.</p>
<p>I own a liquor store in Kansas, and we have only two large liquor distributors for our state.  One is Standard, started and owned in state.  The other distributor was purchased by Glazer&#8217;s.</p>
<p>In the past year, we have had to deal with multiple month&#8217;s out of stock problems on the following whiskies, in order:</p>
<p>Old Charter.  Out for a month.<br />
W.L. Weller.  Out for over two months.<br />
*Gasp*  Maker&#8217;s Mark.  Out for a month.<br />
Old 1889 out for a month and counting.</p>
<p>When Heaven hill burned, supply of their products was not noticeably impacted.  Evan Williams went up a hair in price, but that was all.  The last great price hike was the tequila scare some years ago.</p>
<p>How can a distributor run out of Maker&#8217;s Mark?  They advertise that product!  You don&#8217;t spend any money on advertising a product if it&#8217;s in high enough demand that you will run out of it!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if the Kansas out of stock problem&#8217;s were related to crappy management from Glazer&#8217;s (As Old Charter comes from the other distributor) and are therefore not indicative of wider supply problems in the country or not.  However, combined with my observation of the price of scrap metal (China) Concrete (China) and Gasoline (China)  I suspect that producers are sending every spare drop of their whiskies to the Far East, to quench that middle class.  It&#8217;s a supply and demand issue, in my opinion.</p>
<p>If you could sell all your whisky for $300 per case in China, why would you bother selling any in Kansas for $100?  Ever see Four Roses Bourbon any more?  It was the top seller in the U.S. for over 20 years.  They still make it.  They just don&#8217;t bother selling it here.</p>
<p>I think my out of stock problems were indicative that Buffalo Trace is shipping every drop they think they won&#8217;t sell domestically over-seas, running a little short on a few things here, and our distributors jacking the price up as a result.  I think Maker&#8217;s followed suit.  We&#8217;ll see.</p>
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		<title>By: John Hansell</title>
		<link>http://www.whiskyadvocateblog.com/2008/09/27/whats-causing-the-price-increases/#comment-1599</link>
		<dc:creator>John Hansell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 20:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Splitting bottles with friends is a good idea. 

About those WhiskyFest prices: Yes I agree the prices have gone up a lot. More than I would want them to. Our major cost is the hotel (you would faint if I told you what they charge) and I think our hotel costs have gone up about 250% over the same period. That&#039;s just one example, but I hope you see my point.

Still, $120 is in line with other events, like the Scotch Malt Whisky Society events here in the U.S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Splitting bottles with friends is a good idea. </p>
<p>About those WhiskyFest prices: Yes I agree the prices have gone up a lot. More than I would want them to. Our major cost is the hotel (you would faint if I told you what they charge) and I think our hotel costs have gone up about 250% over the same period. That&#8217;s just one example, but I hope you see my point.</p>
<p>Still, $120 is in line with other events, like the Scotch Malt Whisky Society events here in the U.S.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 19:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As your basic consumer with limited budget this is a very interesting discussion and I appreciate all of the various vewpoints.  Much of the information matches what I suspected. I agree with an earlier post, as long as there is good whisky available for a decent price it doesn&#039;t matter too much that many people are boxed out of the higher-end. For me over the last 5 years I&#039;ve become much more value conscious, taking great care in my choices. Certainly bourbon and rye have gained more of my shelf space. Even premium bourbons, which have also shot up in price, remain relatively attractively priced.  Also, I&#039;ve gotten into the habit of splitting bottles, sometimes three ways, with friends. This gives a lot of variety for the shelf without breaking the bank. 
John, on a related note I can&#039;t help but notice that WhiskyFest has increased in lock step with scotch prices. 11 years ago we payed $50 for a fabulous event. Today, still a fantastic event, but now $120 (or $160 VIP). Minimally a 140% increase in just over 10 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As your basic consumer with limited budget this is a very interesting discussion and I appreciate all of the various vewpoints.  Much of the information matches what I suspected. I agree with an earlier post, as long as there is good whisky available for a decent price it doesn&#8217;t matter too much that many people are boxed out of the higher-end. For me over the last 5 years I&#8217;ve become much more value conscious, taking great care in my choices. Certainly bourbon and rye have gained more of my shelf space. Even premium bourbons, which have also shot up in price, remain relatively attractively priced.  Also, I&#8217;ve gotten into the habit of splitting bottles, sometimes three ways, with friends. This gives a lot of variety for the shelf without breaking the bank.<br />
John, on a related note I can&#8217;t help but notice that WhiskyFest has increased in lock step with scotch prices. 11 years ago we payed $50 for a fabulous event. Today, still a fantastic event, but now $120 (or $160 VIP). Minimally a 140% increase in just over 10 years.</p>
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		<title>By: John Hansell</title>
		<link>http://www.whiskyadvocateblog.com/2008/09/27/whats-causing-the-price-increases/#comment-1595</link>
		<dc:creator>John Hansell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, It&#039;s nice to get a distiller&#039;s viewpoint. Thank you for that. The sun is definitely shining (for now, anyway). After what the stock market did today here in the U.S., that sun looks like it&#039;s might get stuck behind some storm clouds I see on the horizon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, It&#8217;s nice to get a distiller&#8217;s viewpoint. Thank you for that. The sun is definitely shining (for now, anyway). After what the stock market did today here in the U.S., that sun looks like it&#8217;s might get stuck behind some storm clouds I see on the horizon.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Putting myself in the shoes of a distiller, my costs have recently risen due to increases in the price of malt, labor, oil, taxes etc... so the whisky I am distilling now costs more and I won&#039;t see the money for it for 15 years. Thats a long time to have money tied up. I don&#039;t know if that whisky will be successful in 15 years or not, but I do know that the whisky I am bottling now is good, so I raise the price and take profits now and reduce my risk. Make hay while the sun shines. The whisky I bottle today, has to pay my expenses today and buy the ingredients for the whisky I make today for sale 15 years from now. The price I get for the whisky is a balance between the supply I have on hand, the demand, and the price the market will bear in terms of today&#039;s money. I can&#039;t take the money I make from the sale of a 15 YO bottle of whisky and buy groceries at the store at prices from 15 years ago. I have to charge a price for the whisky that gives me a profit that makes sence in terms of the value of today&#039;s money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Putting myself in the shoes of a distiller, my costs have recently risen due to increases in the price of malt, labor, oil, taxes etc&#8230; so the whisky I am distilling now costs more and I won&#8217;t see the money for it for 15 years. Thats a long time to have money tied up. I don&#8217;t know if that whisky will be successful in 15 years or not, but I do know that the whisky I am bottling now is good, so I raise the price and take profits now and reduce my risk. Make hay while the sun shines. The whisky I bottle today, has to pay my expenses today and buy the ingredients for the whisky I make today for sale 15 years from now. The price I get for the whisky is a balance between the supply I have on hand, the demand, and the price the market will bear in terms of today&#8217;s money. I can&#8217;t take the money I make from the sale of a 15 YO bottle of whisky and buy groceries at the store at prices from 15 years ago. I have to charge a price for the whisky that gives me a profit that makes sence in terms of the value of today&#8217;s money.</p>
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		<title>By: John Hansell</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Hansell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Graham, Balvenie 10 is definitely on its way out. It&#039;s nice to hear your views, as a bar owner. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graham, Balvenie 10 is definitely on its way out. It&#8217;s nice to hear your views, as a bar owner. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Watson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a retailer (bar owner) here in the home of Single Malt Scotch, I think the answer lies in some or all of the above. 

Companies require to pay for the increased costs from their whisky operations now, irrespective of the costs and years when it was distilled. I have noticed significant increases this year, led primarily by the Diageo malts - prior to this, I was able to price the classic malts on the first rung of my pricing ladder (with the exception of Lagavulin 16yo). However I have found that now I have them priced on the third rung. 

There will be the argument that the age of the malt in the bottle is older eg. Glenkinchie 10yo instead of 12yo, and I keep hearing rumours that other bottlings eg Balvenie 10yo are being discontinued in favour of an older version (Signature) with a consequent increase in price. I&#039;m not sure what the position is in the USA, but in many outlets in the UK, including major supermarket chains you can only purchase the Macallan Fine Oak version.

Supply and demand are clearly a factor and I&#039;m sure that price is being used to try and balance the equation. In this respect I have some sympathy for the producers, I have found myself having to raise the price of certain malts eg Port Ellen, because I know if I sell them at a normal mark-up, they will be targeted by malt connoisseurs as being a &quot;bargain&quot;.

Finally, as a seller rather than a collector of whisky, it seems to me that the producers are no doubt encouraged by the high prices paid by consumers for the specialist, one-off, anniversary, limited-edition bottlings. The vast majority of these go into dusty storage, to be sold on at a later date at a premium, therby giving further encouragement to the industry to keep raising prices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a retailer (bar owner) here in the home of Single Malt Scotch, I think the answer lies in some or all of the above. </p>
<p>Companies require to pay for the increased costs from their whisky operations now, irrespective of the costs and years when it was distilled. I have noticed significant increases this year, led primarily by the Diageo malts &#8211; prior to this, I was able to price the classic malts on the first rung of my pricing ladder (with the exception of Lagavulin 16yo). However I have found that now I have them priced on the third rung. </p>
<p>There will be the argument that the age of the malt in the bottle is older eg. Glenkinchie 10yo instead of 12yo, and I keep hearing rumours that other bottlings eg Balvenie 10yo are being discontinued in favour of an older version (Signature) with a consequent increase in price. I&#8217;m not sure what the position is in the USA, but in many outlets in the UK, including major supermarket chains you can only purchase the Macallan Fine Oak version.</p>
<p>Supply and demand are clearly a factor and I&#8217;m sure that price is being used to try and balance the equation. In this respect I have some sympathy for the producers, I have found myself having to raise the price of certain malts eg Port Ellen, because I know if I sell them at a normal mark-up, they will be targeted by malt connoisseurs as being a &#8220;bargain&#8221;.</p>
<p>Finally, as a seller rather than a collector of whisky, it seems to me that the producers are no doubt encouraged by the high prices paid by consumers for the specialist, one-off, anniversary, limited-edition bottlings. The vast majority of these go into dusty storage, to be sold on at a later date at a premium, therby giving further encouragement to the industry to keep raising prices.</p>
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		<title>By: John Hansell</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Hansell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Todd, Kallasander, BJ: one common thread to you comments is that the companies are now wiser (and more shrewd?) about how they market their whisky. No more rare Ardbegs watered down and dumped into a big vatting. And 15 year old whiskies are sold as 15 year old whisky (at a higher price), not blended in with what&#039;s being sold as a 12 year old whisky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd, Kallasander, BJ: one common thread to you comments is that the companies are now wiser (and more shrewd?) about how they market their whisky. No more rare Ardbegs watered down and dumped into a big vatting. And 15 year old whiskies are sold as 15 year old whisky (at a higher price), not blended in with what&#8217;s being sold as a 12 year old whisky.</p>
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		<title>By: B.J. Reed</title>
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		<dc:creator>B.J. Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John

I doubt there is any market where prices are not going up - I think this is the basic supply/demand issue - They key issue is whether the stages of cost are varying to any substantial degree - Do importers and distributors in Sweden take a different cut then those in the U.S.?  - What is the rate of increase of cost at each stage from producer to retail sales - I think this was your original question.  I suspect the largest impact is with producers.  Figure Glenmorangie repackaging their 12 YO Finishes and then increasing the price significantly or Dalmore discontinuing their 12 for a 15 and, I suspect increasing the cost significantly (the existing Dalmore 12 probably has a lot of 15 and above in it anyway) - These are producer decisions and importers and distributors while varying to some extent are not the major drivers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John</p>
<p>I doubt there is any market where prices are not going up &#8211; I think this is the basic supply/demand issue &#8211; They key issue is whether the stages of cost are varying to any substantial degree &#8211; Do importers and distributors in Sweden take a different cut then those in the U.S.?  &#8211; What is the rate of increase of cost at each stage from producer to retail sales &#8211; I think this was your original question.  I suspect the largest impact is with producers.  Figure Glenmorangie repackaging their 12 YO Finishes and then increasing the price significantly or Dalmore discontinuing their 12 for a 15 and, I suspect increasing the cost significantly (the existing Dalmore 12 probably has a lot of 15 and above in it anyway) &#8211; These are producer decisions and importers and distributors while varying to some extent are not the major drivers.</p>
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		<title>By: kallaskander</title>
		<link>http://www.whiskyadvocateblog.com/2008/09/27/whats-causing-the-price-increases/#comment-1583</link>
		<dc:creator>kallaskander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 07:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi John,

the prices go up an up because they can. It was said that other spirits are not moving up in price as whisky does. That is true. Cognac for example. In comparison to whisky cognac is dead as far as the demand goes. Even in France more whisky that cognac is being drunk nowadays. As nobody cares for cognac there is no move in prices and if it is more downward tha up.
But whisky is a bonanza. It`s boomtime mates! It is amazing what people are prepared to pay for whisky. And the producers spurr the galloping horse on and on. It will die eventually, emerging markets or not.

The cost of producing whisky has risen. But not as dramatically to justify what the producers ask for their spirit just because they can.

They claim that they have to ask higher prices because what they sell has to cover the running costs.
The matured spirit has to pay for producing the new make. And of course there has to be a price component which covers the costs of warehousing an maturing the casks.

But is that true?

It is not. Only a few years ago when you bought a 12 yo whisky you had a vatting in your bottle that was much older and the age detemining casks in that vatting were the minority. Means that a standard 12 yo bottling consisted mainly of cask much older and up to 20 and some cask even more years. So the heart of a 12 yo  was in average 15 or 17 yo ore more.

Today when you buy a 12 yo whisky it is just what you get a vatting of 12 yo casks with some 15 at the most 17 yo casks thrown in. The older casks that were used in years gone by to rise the level and quality of 12 yo standard whiskies are today sold as whiskies of their peer group. e.g. 15 17 18 or 20 yo expressions.

If you watch the figures the drinks giants puplish quarterly you see where the rieses in price comes from and where the money goes.
The sell much whisky in the emerging markets but they do not sell cheap there.

The prices go up because the producers have to satisfy greedy share holders.
It is true that they have costs not doubt and they invest huge sums of money. 

But they let us pay for all that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John,</p>
<p>the prices go up an up because they can. It was said that other spirits are not moving up in price as whisky does. That is true. Cognac for example. In comparison to whisky cognac is dead as far as the demand goes. Even in France more whisky that cognac is being drunk nowadays. As nobody cares for cognac there is no move in prices and if it is more downward tha up.<br />
But whisky is a bonanza. It`s boomtime mates! It is amazing what people are prepared to pay for whisky. And the producers spurr the galloping horse on and on. It will die eventually, emerging markets or not.</p>
<p>The cost of producing whisky has risen. But not as dramatically to justify what the producers ask for their spirit just because they can.</p>
<p>They claim that they have to ask higher prices because what they sell has to cover the running costs.<br />
The matured spirit has to pay for producing the new make. And of course there has to be a price component which covers the costs of warehousing an maturing the casks.</p>
<p>But is that true?</p>
<p>It is not. Only a few years ago when you bought a 12 yo whisky you had a vatting in your bottle that was much older and the age detemining casks in that vatting were the minority. Means that a standard 12 yo bottling consisted mainly of cask much older and up to 20 and some cask even more years. So the heart of a 12 yo  was in average 15 or 17 yo ore more.</p>
<p>Today when you buy a 12 yo whisky it is just what you get a vatting of 12 yo casks with some 15 at the most 17 yo casks thrown in. The older casks that were used in years gone by to rise the level and quality of 12 yo standard whiskies are today sold as whiskies of their peer group. e.g. 15 17 18 or 20 yo expressions.</p>
<p>If you watch the figures the drinks giants puplish quarterly you see where the rieses in price comes from and where the money goes.<br />
The sell much whisky in the emerging markets but they do not sell cheap there.</p>
<p>The prices go up because the producers have to satisfy greedy share holders.<br />
It is true that they have costs not doubt and they invest huge sums of money. </p>
<p>But they let us pay for all that.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>http://www.whiskyadvocateblog.com/2008/09/27/whats-causing-the-price-increases/#comment-1579</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 04:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prices of the best whiskies have gone up 3-5 fold in some cases.  So 15% increases in storage or transportation costs do not account for this.  Even the plummeting US currency can&#039;t account for this magnitude of price increase.  Premium single malt and bourbon/rye prices have gone through the roof because that is apparently what the market will bear.  If we don&#039;t like the prices (or obnoxious changes in packaging that are coupled to price increases like Glenmorangie), then we don&#039;t have to buy.  However, we should acknowledge that these products have been undervalued for decades.  Even the distilleries and the companies that owned them had no idea of what they were sitting on.  How many priceless casks of Ardbeg were indiscriminately dumped into Ardbeg 30 year old and watered down to 40% just a decade ago?  Savvy consumers are the ones who have awakened the industry by recognizing largely under priced quality whiskies.  The internet brought together enthusiasts and provided a means for instant identification of the best available bottlings.  Let&#039;s face it, we&#039;ve enjoyed in the past many bottles that that were worth much more than what we paid for them.  What has changed is that a well informed consumer with an average income could afford to buy the best whiskies as they came to the market.  Not now.  John, you could change the cover story of your next issue to &quot;The best whiskies you are never going to drink (because some Wall Street guy supported by your Bush bailout tax dollars is sipping now)&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prices of the best whiskies have gone up 3-5 fold in some cases.  So 15% increases in storage or transportation costs do not account for this.  Even the plummeting US currency can&#8217;t account for this magnitude of price increase.  Premium single malt and bourbon/rye prices have gone through the roof because that is apparently what the market will bear.  If we don&#8217;t like the prices (or obnoxious changes in packaging that are coupled to price increases like Glenmorangie), then we don&#8217;t have to buy.  However, we should acknowledge that these products have been undervalued for decades.  Even the distilleries and the companies that owned them had no idea of what they were sitting on.  How many priceless casks of Ardbeg were indiscriminately dumped into Ardbeg 30 year old and watered down to 40% just a decade ago?  Savvy consumers are the ones who have awakened the industry by recognizing largely under priced quality whiskies.  The internet brought together enthusiasts and provided a means for instant identification of the best available bottlings.  Let&#8217;s face it, we&#8217;ve enjoyed in the past many bottles that that were worth much more than what we paid for them.  What has changed is that a well informed consumer with an average income could afford to buy the best whiskies as they came to the market.  Not now.  John, you could change the cover story of your next issue to &#8220;The best whiskies you are never going to drink (because some Wall Street guy supported by your Bush bailout tax dollars is sipping now)&#8221;.</p>
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